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Kojima Productions: DualShock 3 is better than DualShock 2

In spite of what Sony is officially saying, it appears that PS3's upcoming rumble-ready controller, the DualShock 3 performs better than the DualShock 2. Kojima Productions' Ryan Payton was grilled by 1UP about the new controller if "it's safe to definitively say that the rumble in the Dual Shock 3 is better than the rumble in the Dual Shock 2." The answer? "Absolutely, yeah. It feels better, and I think Shane experienced that too."

Our hands-on time at TGS didn't reveal a significantly better rumbling experience, even when playing Metal Gear Solid 4. So, what's going on? Is it a placebo effect? Who should we believe? 1UP and Kojima Productions? Or Sony?

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1. It definitely got touchsense in it

Posted at 5:45PM on Sep 27th 2007 by sm

2. Awesome!

Posted at 5:47PM on Sep 27th 2007 by Tim Parsons

3. IT DOES NOT HAVE TOUCHSENSE IN IT. You guys need to learn the definition of confirmed.

Posted at 5:56PM on Sep 27th 2007 by John Q Sample

4. I Knew It!

Posted at 6:03PM on Sep 27th 2007 by Ruben

5. did you get stereo rumble when you handled it?

Posted at 6:40PM on Sep 27th 2007 by sectionz

6. From what I have read is that the technology is same but the implementation is better. I would relate this to speakers and mono vs. stereo. The rumble inside the controller has usually been two motors rumbling at the same time at varying levels (mono), but now the motors inside the controller can rumble separately at different levels independent of each other (Stereo).

Posted at 6:55PM on Sep 27th 2007 by IseWise

7. I'd believe SONY! They would never lie. Who needs 'last-gen' rumble anyway?

Posted at 7:38PM on Sep 27th 2007 by Spitkicker

8. I'd be really shocked if they were dumb enough to give us what genuinely IS "last gen" rumble. I'm not trying to be clever. Delivering rumble a year late, previously having called it "last gen", with the 360's controller having EXCELLENT rumble, Sony would be demented to just use the same tech as in the dualshock 2.

Posted at 7:47PM on Sep 27th 2007 by Stef Geiger

9. i was watching Eddie Murphy Raw the other night and this situation plays into an act he did in that.

"if you chase a girl for a year before she finally gives you some, of course your gonna say its the best stuff you ever had cause you haven't had any in a year."

i think thats what happened with this control. we haven't had rumble in so long, that it now feels like something new and better than it really is.



lol wow just read my comment and that is some off the wall stuff right there.

Posted at 11:57PM on Sep 27th 2007 by B1gC72

10. I too, find this extremely bizarre, and immediately wondered if there was some placebo effect going on.

But what about this: what if it's the same motor mechanism and all, but this time it responds 60fps instead of 30fps? Or something? And it's the same motor mechanism, being stimulated more subtly, just like the 10-bit analog stick is much more subtly controlled than the original 8-bit stick, something crucial for racing and fps.

Posted at 12:09AM on Sep 28th 2007 by John

11. I think John hit it on the money - that's exactly the analogy I wanted to use ahah.

Anyway, if you listen to 1up's impressions of MGS4 in TGS, it talks about one of the guys using DualShock 3 for MGS4 in gameplay. And he DEFINITELY felt a difference in the rumble from DualShock 2. He said he could sense where the guy was depending on which side of the controller gave him the vibrations.

So I guess its an awesome implementation of a sort of stereo-like rumble? Maybe more? Who knows.

Posted at 1:20AM on Sep 28th 2007 by Dahk

12. Interesting. Rumble is a nice extra touch, but not a huge thing for me as it seems to be for others.

When it's gone I don't really take notice. I never find myself playing a game and thinking "if only my controller was a vibrator too!" When it's there, sometimes it adds to the game, sometimes I don't really notice/pay attention to it, and sometimes it's implemented terribly and detracts from the experience.

Posted at 4:39PM on Sep 28th 2007 by Larz

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