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The 360's crappy hardware is gimping GTA IV

Okay, so maybe it's not as harsh as the headline sounds - but Rockstar recently acknowledged in an interview with OPM UK that the lack of a hard drive in the 'cheap' 360 SKU combined with the lack of Blu-Ray is limiting what the team can do in GTA IV. Unfortunately, this effects the PlayStation 3 version as well, since they are aiming at both versions of the game being identical.

This is one of the first times I've seen a company acknowledge that making a multi-platform game ends up limiting what they can do. Normally that sort of talk is up to fanboys - not Vice Presidents of major companies. It's a shame to hear that the 360 is limiting what GTA IV can become, but hopefully Rockstar takes a queue from The Darkness and adds-on a bunch of content to fully utilize the space that Blu-Ray offers.

Oh, and to be fair - Rockstar also said that the PS3 offers it's own challenges that they have to overcome (cough, the Cell BE, cough).

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1. lol... great hook

Posted at 10:38PM on May 2nd 2007 by humpty

2. lol, I like the title in Joystiq better. with the reference to "too few good men". good stuff

but yeah, I am sure most of us knew this from the beginning, Core is ruining xbox because developers can't 'assume' people will have the harddrive or not.

This is all about Krazy Ken's vision. (applying to Blu-Ray also).

Really, there's nothing new, PS3 will have 10 yrs life span, 360 will probably last 6-7 years. Nothing to it.

I would be REALLY pissed if they couldn't get GTAIV out because xbox team couldn't get it done. (more pissed if PS3 team got it done on time and was forced to wait)

T2, you better not pull a Capcom.

Posted at 10:41PM on May 2nd 2007 by kingofwale

3. damn micrsoft they screwed the game up..why cant they build the game on the ps3 first then port it?? take advantage of the cell and blue ray space..but they just lookin for money

Posted at 10:53PM on May 2nd 2007 by microsoftsucks

4. I'm hoping it's being built for the ps3 and ported, since so far going the opposite direction hasn't fared well for us.
And hell yeah, it's great to hear developers saying what I've though since the ps3 launched. The biggest mistake MS made was not putting a hard drive in all 360s, and the inclusion of bluray WILL make a difference in games. Last gen titles were filling dvds, who honestly thought it wouldn't be a concern for HD gaming?

Posted at 10:59PM on May 2nd 2007 by mccomber

5. I'm not a fan of the ps3 right now, I would rather play my 360.. but I have always have doubted the space capacity for games like this and Mass Effect. It seems like content becomes more limited than what they could of added in the game if it wasn't for space.

My friends didn't believe me and said that they could compress good and.. and "hey look at oblivion!" that game.. well took up all the space.. had somewhat good graphics but sure as hell lacked a lot of specific elements when it comes to character movement and other things.

People would say games look better on 360 because it's a port then why do ports from ps2 look so much better on an xbox? They ported fear.. and messed up the game and has a lot of glitches and slowdown in the ps3 version.

So yeah, the 360 might be hindering certain games on multiplatforms, but they sure are giving ps3 some good competition. Man.. I wont go to ps3 though.. until it has a good number of titles that could be compared to 360.. right now it's a joke.

Posted at 11:16PM on May 2nd 2007 by atsui

6. how does Day 1 Studios's inability to port a game properly have anything to do with Sony or the idea of 'porting'??

and the fact you are picking xbox over PS3 at this point means NOTHING to us. in case you didn't notice, this is "PS3fanboy" website, not "I'm-a-xbox-fan-please-convert-me"

Posted at 11:21PM on May 2nd 2007 by kingofwale

7. FUD!

What about when they said how the PS3 has limitations of its own?

Posted at 11:37PM on May 2nd 2007 by Arno

8. >What about when they said how the PS3 has limitations of its own?


Did you read the last paragraph?

Posted at 11:48PM on May 2nd 2007 by kingofwale

9. kingofwale good, good

you hit the nail..

they bitch about trolls coming to stink up the place in all honestly they want them and they have fun with them. Then the commenter's bitch about 360 boys come here but say stuff that indicates they want them to come here.

I come here for news for I have an interest in the ps3.. and when they something stupid it's just obvious they'd come here and they do the same thing at the other fanboy sites. Hypocrites I say.

Posted at 12:33AM on May 3rd 2007 by atsui

10. Seems scott tried to hide his identity behind another person's posting name. Pretty low-blow. Careful, you're teetering on perma-IP ban.

Posted at 12:33AM on May 3rd 2007 by ndoerr

11. oops.. meant scott in my last post

Posted at 12:35AM on May 3rd 2007 by atsui

12. kingofwale, do you ever stop? Telling T2 not to pull a Capcom. Get over it. GTAIV was announced to be multiplatform from the get-go.

Why do the reasons for which you have to wait matter? You're a consumer. You buy the game when it comes out. It doesn't matter which version took longer (if that's even the case). What matters is that you will be able to play this game if you own a PS3 or a 360. Grow up. There's fanboyism, and then there's psychotic obsession.

Did YOU read the last paragraph? Did you comprehend what the last paragraph meant? If you did, then you fooled me. Both sides have faults, but you only want to talk about one side. And to think, people like you wonder why the Xbots come on here and run their mouths.

And before anyone hits me with one of those "if you don't like the PS3 so much, why are you here" lines, go check out my latest blog. I talk about the 360's huge fault with the lack of a guaranteed HDD, and why Sony is stupid for not pointing it out every chance they get. Some of us noticed this fault from the beginning, but Sony isn't smart enough to start firing back. They just stand there and take shot after legitimate shot from Microsoft. Sony has ammo, and they're not using it.

Posted at 12:37AM on May 3rd 2007 by Next-Gen-Gamer

13. as a consumer, I refuse to take crap from the company that makes the game, I think as an consumer, I have every right to demand it.

>I talk about the 360's huge fault with the lack of a guaranteed HDD,

first of all, I'm not going to read your blog, frankly, anybody who knew game developing processes (or just being a gamer) knew lack of harddrive and uniformity kills xbox, I don't need your blog to tell me what I knew from the beginning.

and secondly, why should Sony openly attack Microsoft? especially about something SO obvious that a 12 yr old will notice? Sony has enough problems to deal with themselves and frankly, if SOny is to go down, it will go down with class.

Posted at 1:29AM on May 3rd 2007 by kingofwale

14. "as a consumer, I refuse to take crap from the company that makes the game, I think as an consumer, I have every right to demand it."

The company that makes this game is Rockstar. Its not like Sony or Microsoft are pumping millions into this game. And demand what? Demand to know which game took longer to make? Why does it matter. Besides, if you were to look at this realistically, and go by what we know, then you'd know that the only chance of one version delaying the other is if that its the PS3 version. 360 isn't new tech. It's tech that's been readily available for years, but improved upon. I don't know why you care which took the longest, but if it did, that'd be why. Satisfied now? I doubt it.

"first of all, I'm not going to read your blog, frankly, anybody who knew game developing processes (or just being a gamer) knew lack of harddrive and uniformity kills xbox, I don't need your blog to tell me what I knew from the beginning."

That's great. I wasn't talking about you though. Did you not read the part that reads, "And before anyone hits me with one of those "if you don't like the PS3 so much, why are you here" lines, go check out my latest blog."? Unless you were planning to go that route (which you didn't), then it doesn't apply to you. Stop digging.

"and secondly, why should Sony openly attack Microsoft? especially about something SO obvious that a 12 yr old will notice? Sony has enough problems to deal with themselves and frankly, if SOny is to go down, it will go down with class."

There's nothing smart or logical in that paragraph. Why should Sony openly attack Microsoft? Oh, I don't know. Maybe it has to do with the fact that Microsoft is constantly trashing the $600 machine that most people don't appear to be interested in.

And is it really that obvious? Most consumers don't see it. Hell, I've only heard someone ask Microsoft about it once or twice. They're avoiding this problem because Sony is being ignorant, and not taking the shot. Its not about class. Have you learned nothing since the last E3? Every company can be and have been classless at times. This isn't classless. Its about trying to save how your console is perceived, because the competition continues to point out everything wrong with it. And the worst part about it is that Microsoft isn't wrong. They're just avoiding any and all positives about the PS3.

Sony can either be gutless, which is what you apparently want, or they can at least TRY not to make the PS3 look like a complete waste of money.

Posted at 2:16AM on May 3rd 2007 by Next-Gen-Gamer

15. Well, they are using the X360 version as their "showoff to the press" version. So I'm sure it's not that bad really.

Posted at 2:27AM on May 3rd 2007 by mep

16. You know, you never see a post titled as this one is, over on Xbox360Fanboy.

Why must PS3Fanboy *constantly* be so antagonistic? Live and let live.

(before you jump all over me, yes, it's possible to be a fan of both systems, I have every right to be posting here)

Posted at 2:55AM on May 3rd 2007 by Shrimp

17. Ok read this again!!!!

ITS ONLY TO DO WITH THE HARDDRIVE! ok
they may just end up maken the game need a harddrive----it woulden be the 1st

END OF STORY

Posted at 3:27AM on May 3rd 2007 by L

18. It takes balls to complain about Xbox fanboys flaming on this blog, when you've got headlines like "The 360's crappy hardware is gimping GTA IV" that just screams: "Hey fanboys, come on over here, we're gonna kick your ass!"

Posted at 4:43AM on May 3rd 2007 by ymmv

19. Wow, all the "If the game is going to be delayed for the ps3 because of the 360, I'm going to be pissed." mood. I'm surprised really I would think that after so many game delays for the ps3, (that were ps3 related), that you'd blame the difficulty of the chip. Guess not, you see that the 360 has a weakness so you start blaming it on that. Personally, I say screw those people that got a core. I mean who seriously bought a core and didn't get a harddrive? You really can't do anything with the 360 without a harddrive.

Posted at 6:20AM on May 3rd 2007 by Killer

20. I come to PS3Fanboy to read articles and info from a PS3 FANboy's perspective.

For all the people complaining about how the Xbox is treated...go debate at a general site like Joystiq or Kotaku. The blogosphere, though democratic in that anyone can start one, allows for narrow and compartmentalized views. This site seems to be for fans of the PS3 since that is its freaking name.

Colin...write inflamatory headlines (no nappy headed anythings please) all you want because the truth of your writing is that if people take the time to read the whole post AND the provided links they will see where the sarcasm fits in.

Signing off in a special way today...



Posted at 7:22AM on May 3rd 2007 by 09-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63-56-88-c0

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