Here's a new trailer for the PS3 exclusive SOCOM: Confrontation. What would you expect to see in this video? There are Navy SEALs, guns, and SEALs using said guns. Still -- the areas look huge and fantastic. Who doesn't love gunning down terrorists? It's just a selfish wish, but we'd like a more realistic cover system. The devs do realize that bullets would go right through a barrel and/or a wooden wagon, right? It makes for cover in the game, sure, but at least let such cover points get demolished easily. That said, we'll shut up and enjoy it for what it is: an action-packed trailer.
I'm not saying the game will be great. I for one don't like the way the characters move but that's to be expected from an online game showing online footage and not a scripted sequence. Still I don't think it's right to say the game looks like a ps2 because it's miles beyond what was achieved in the ps2 Socoms in terms of graphics.
the graphics look great, but the physics look like ps2... when someone's legs are doing a running motion, they should be going forwards, not sideways haha
I don't like that running strafing shit. Who the hell does that, while firing? Rambo. That's about it. I can't justify the game as long as they have sideways running in the game, it makes the combat look like a game, as ironic as that is I want realistic combat.
Strafe shooting never bothered me. It's the old Socom 2/sure shot, super strafing that got to me. Although Strafe Shooting does look ridiculous, it is still just a game and not a simulator. If I were forced to crouch and sit still to shoot, I wouldn't even touch the game.
It was always funny to see the guys in Socom who would just sit crouch with their M60s.
honestly people in the US need to learn the definition of terrorism. it's not defined, as the post seems to indicate, as an arab with a gun fighting american troops. and blahblahbloo you're wrong as well, the americans in the video are not terrorists either. the people in the video are militia who (twistedly) see themselves as freedom fighters when in actuality most of what they do relates to killing the very civilians they supposedly are trying save. "terrorist" isn't some blanket term for all bad people, which is the way people in america generally tend to use the word nowadays, and if it were then we might as well people like Mao, Stalin and Hitler terrorists, which they are clearly not and were in fact far worse than mere terrorists. Bin Laden is a terrorist, these men the US troops are not. and i really hope nobody tries to turn this around on me and state that i'm somehow condoning what they are doing.
The sad part about war is that the civilians are the one who end up suffering the most. As you said the freedom fighters end up killing the one they are trying to save and I must add that we are also killing the ones we are trying to save. Our soldiers are also sadly killing civilians product of all the collateral damage. The very sad part is that those civilians that will make it out alive will be scarred for life never having a full understanding of what actually happened. Many of them will be unfit to have a normal life afterward and maybe some of them will turn into terrorists in the future. It's a vicious cycle that seems to have no end in sight.
This is why war sucks. Really humans will be amazed if they actually see what can be accomplished by actually sitting down and talking things over. If everyone of us sat down and learned about each other then we will realize that we are in this together and we can't be fighting if we want to succeed. Sadly it seems that only through the disasters that are sure to come in the following years will humans be able to understand how important it is to unite forces and act together for the good of mankind.
The game definitely needs more polish if they think it will stand up to the Battlefield series, especially Bad Company. From what we see in this video, already BC has it beat by way of graphics and physics. Let's hope they can pull it off.
Strafing like that becomes idiotic, I never liked how you had to do that to survive or that you could...One of the many odd things that make me touch and go with this title.
Actually the game looks good. And comparing it to Battlefield Bad Company is very weak. One game is a far fetched fps that has unrealistic fighting and the other is based on real warfare with real soldiers and enemies in a third person perspective. This game is based on team work and strategy to take down opposing forces. That is what makes it such an excellent game. I was playing Battlefield yesterday and realized how shallow the game play is. It's style is very repetitive and the missions get pretty boring. With a game like Socom you actually get to know people and make your clan with people you know and play with. This creates a very good strategical experience.
I'm really not sure you how you can differentiate BC with this type of game other than one being from the 1st person perspective and the other being 3rd. I may be in the dark about how amazing the community for SOCOM will be in respect to building friendships through the game, but that has never really been a part of how I game, personally. Although BC currently is shallow with it's current variety in Game Modes, the gameplay the Battlefield series has evolved from has been garnering a more involving/realistic (being in a real battlefield would probably your best way to find out) experience. Comparing it to BC is pretty valid. Both are team and squad based. Both revolve around opposing forces and goals, vast sandbox like maps and 'real warfare'. Which is what makes the genre both of these titles falls into. Unless the publishers are going to put actual political history into the storyline, it's pretty safe to say that any game in this kind of field is going to be unrealistic. SOCOM has the potential to become a great title. The landscapes and textures look like a lot of hard work has gone into them. If they pull it off, fantastic, I'll take 2. But from what I've seen and heard from this trailer is not selling it yet.
Hugerobots, I respectfully disagree. Socom isn't sandbox at all. Using your above logic, why not compare Socom to CoD4? It just makes no sense to me. Heck, I wouldn't even compare CoD 4 to BF.
I love SOCOM (bought every game) but this look very PS2'ish. The movement of the characters seem so lame, so unless they can increase the fps, I will not pick this up
I want to like SOCOM. It seems like a pretty good game. But honestly, the graphics aren't spectacular. I know you shouldn't judge a game by it's graphics, but I suppose MGS4 has spoiled me.
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7-05-2008 @ 1:26PM
fgsfds said...
Looks last-gen...
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7-05-2008 @ 1:29PM
-Saki said...
Best series of online TPS ever !!
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7-05-2008 @ 1:45PM
frankym said...
The game looks pretty average in IMHO...graphics, movement, etc. look like PS2.
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7-05-2008 @ 2:08PM
David said...
Saying the game looks like a ps2 game is a bit too much. You remember how Socom used to look on ps2?
http://ps2.ign.com/dor/objects/552397/socom-ii-us-navy-seals/images/socom2_091103_07.html?page=mediaFull
I'm not saying the game will be great. I for one don't like the way the characters move but that's to be expected from an online game showing online footage and not a scripted sequence. Still I don't think it's right to say the game looks like a ps2 because it's miles beyond what was achieved in the ps2 Socoms in terms of graphics.
7-05-2008 @ 3:38PM
nakedatthecomp said...
the graphics look great, but the physics look like ps2... when someone's legs are doing a running motion, they should be going forwards, not sideways haha
7-05-2008 @ 1:53PM
Volomon said...
I don't like that running strafing shit. Who the hell does that, while firing? Rambo. That's about it. I can't justify the game as long as they have sideways running in the game, it makes the combat look like a game, as ironic as that is I want realistic combat.
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7-05-2008 @ 4:42PM
Mein Bratwurst said...
Strafe shooting never bothered me. It's the old Socom 2/sure shot, super strafing that got to me. Although Strafe Shooting does look ridiculous, it is still just a game and not a simulator. If I were forced to crouch and sit still to shoot, I wouldn't even touch the game.
It was always funny to see the guys in Socom who would just sit crouch with their M60s.
7-05-2008 @ 1:58PM
randomposter said...
honestly people in the US need to learn the definition of terrorism. it's not defined, as the post seems to indicate, as an arab with a gun fighting american troops. and blahblahbloo you're wrong as well, the americans in the video are not terrorists either. the people in the video are militia who (twistedly) see themselves as freedom fighters when in actuality most of what they do relates to killing the very civilians they supposedly are trying save. "terrorist" isn't some blanket term for all bad people, which is the way people in america generally tend to use the word nowadays, and if it were then we might as well people like Mao, Stalin and Hitler terrorists, which they are clearly not and were in fact far worse than mere terrorists. Bin Laden is a terrorist, these men the US troops are not. and i really hope nobody tries to turn this around on me and state that i'm somehow condoning what they are doing.
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7-05-2008 @ 2:06PM
JAH75157 said...
terrorist!
7-05-2008 @ 2:20PM
David said...
The sad part about war is that the civilians are the one who end up suffering the most. As you said the freedom fighters end up killing the one they are trying to save and I must add that we are also killing the ones we are trying to save. Our soldiers are also sadly killing civilians product of all the collateral damage. The very sad part is that those civilians that will make it out alive will be scarred for life never having a full understanding of what actually happened. Many of them will be unfit to have a normal life afterward and maybe some of them will turn into terrorists in the future. It's a vicious cycle that seems to have no end in sight.
This is why war sucks. Really humans will be amazed if they actually see what can be accomplished by actually sitting down and talking things over. If everyone of us sat down and learned about each other then we will realize that we are in this together and we can't be fighting if we want to succeed. Sadly it seems that only through the disasters that are sure to come in the following years will humans be able to understand how important it is to unite forces and act together for the good of mankind.
7-05-2008 @ 2:09PM
JerJerBinks said...
In the settings depicted here, you are more properly called "douchebag."
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7-05-2008 @ 2:13PM
Moe said...
I think I'll stick to MGO thank you. I would have bought it just for the headset but now that its in the same month as LBP I'll pass.
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7-05-2008 @ 2:27PM
Hugerobots said...
ANYWAY, back to the game.
The game definitely needs more polish if they think it will stand up to the Battlefield series, especially Bad Company. From what we see in this video, already BC has it beat by way of graphics and physics. Let's hope they can pull it off.
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7-05-2008 @ 4:31PM
Mein Bratwurst said...
Why would one compare BF to Socom? Wow.
7-05-2008 @ 2:41PM
Lavat said...
Strafing like that becomes idiotic, I never liked how you had to do that to survive or that you could...One of the many odd things that make me touch and go with this title.
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7-05-2008 @ 3:23PM
acedoh said...
Actually the game looks good. And comparing it to Battlefield Bad Company is very weak. One game is a far fetched fps that has unrealistic fighting and the other is based on real warfare with real soldiers and enemies in a third person perspective. This game is based on team work and strategy to take down opposing forces. That is what makes it such an excellent game. I was playing Battlefield yesterday and realized how shallow the game play is. It's style is very repetitive and the missions get pretty boring. With a game like Socom you actually get to know people and make your clan with people you know and play with. This creates a very good strategical experience.
Reply
7-05-2008 @ 4:36PM
Hugerobots said...
I'm really not sure you how you can differentiate BC with this type of game other than one being from the 1st person perspective and the other being 3rd. I may be in the dark about how amazing the community for SOCOM will be in respect to building friendships through the game, but that has never really been a part of how I game, personally.
Although BC currently is shallow with it's current variety in Game Modes, the gameplay the Battlefield series has evolved from has been garnering a more involving/realistic (being in a real battlefield would probably your best way to find out) experience.
Comparing it to BC is pretty valid. Both are team and squad based. Both revolve around opposing forces and goals, vast sandbox like maps and 'real warfare'. Which is what makes the genre both of these titles falls into. Unless the publishers are going to put actual political history into the storyline, it's pretty safe to say that any game in this kind of field is going to be unrealistic.
SOCOM has the potential to become a great title. The landscapes and textures look like a lot of hard work has gone into them. If they pull it off, fantastic, I'll take 2. But from what I've seen and heard from this trailer is not selling it yet.
7-05-2008 @ 4:36PM
Mein Bratwurst said...
Hugerobots, I respectfully disagree. Socom isn't sandbox at all. Using your above logic, why not compare Socom to CoD4? It just makes no sense to me. Heck, I wouldn't even compare CoD 4 to BF.
7-05-2008 @ 5:06PM
J Swayze said...
I love SOCOM (bought every game) but this look very PS2'ish. The movement of the characters seem so lame, so unless they can increase the fps, I will not pick this up
Like someone said, I'll stick to MGO
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7-05-2008 @ 6:50PM
Kepa said...
I want to like SOCOM. It seems like a pretty good game. But honestly, the graphics aren't spectacular. I know you shouldn't judge a game by it's graphics, but I suppose MGS4 has spoiled me.
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