PS3 Fanboy

and whys that? 360s d-pad is SHIT

and whys that? 360s d=pad is SHIT

do i hear a hallellujah?

Oh nevermind. I remember now.

Apologies for all the posts. *Bows*

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JaseH.

Serious question here, how do D-PADS hamper gameplay?? I have always used D-PADS and already gotten used to them. I can't imagine pulling a raging demon with akuma on a stick as easily as on a D-PAD because to me it's better and faster moving then actually moving the whole hand.

What's the big advantage of arcade sticks?? Because for a while I have thought people prefer sticks because they already got used to it from the days of the arcade.

Serious question here, how do D-PADS hamper gameplay?? I have always used D-PADS and already gotten used to them. I can't imagine pulling a raging demon with akuma on a stick as easily as on a D-PAD because to me it's better and faster moving then actually moving the whole hand.

What's the big advantage of arcade sticks?? Because for a while I have thought people prefer sticks because they already got used to it from the days of the arcade.

let me explain this carefully, so i dun get misunderstood.

you can still enjoy a fighting game using a standard pad. the use of a standard pad will not hamper the fun aspect of playing if that's what you are comfortable with. but if you plan on playing at the tournament level, the level where you can place at major tournies, you're gonna need a controller that gives precision and reliability. precision in that what you plan to enter is easily accessible and executable, and reliable in that what you input is exactly what you get. in these terms, i give the edge to the arcade stick.

it isn't specifically the d-pad that's the problem when playing a fighting game, it's the whole standard controller.

the first major problem is pressing multiple buttons at once. sure, you can map them to suite your needs, but you're gonna run into an awkward situation with them sooner or later. it's much easier if the buttons all lie in a single plane and allow you to use your whole hand to press them. no index finger in one plane, and a thumb in another business. that slows things down.

the next is the execution of combos. Tekken specifically is quite difficult to play at a tournament level on a controller. the combos require a smooth and fluid-like input and i have found executing these combos to be much simpler on an arcade stick because all the buttons are layed out in front of you and are not in different planes. i'm not saying that there aren't people who can pull intricate combos off on a standard controller. but from my own experience, less time needs to be wasted on an arcade stick. the way it is is set up allows for a faster execution of combos. like i said, everything you need is in one plane.

lastly is the d-pad itself, it differs from controller to controller, but d-pads can be tiring and finicky. strictly from a comfort standpoint, my d-pad days in Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike were some of the worst days of my thumb's live. but the d-pad only utilizes the movement of your thumb. and speaking for my own thumb, the inputs would be sluggish. on an arcade stick, you use your whole arm to get the stick to perform an input, and i actually find this way of input faster.

my main point here is speed. sure enough, there might be this CRAAAZY guy who can execute combos flawless and do exactly what he wishes on a regular controller. but i bet it took him awhile to get there... a REALLY long while. the arcade overall expedites the learning process. it makes the input of commands faster and simpler so that you dun have to fight the controller along with your opponent. the input device should do what you tell it and do it when you tell it to. i dun find that kind of characteristic in the standard controller. so... it makes life easier, to put it simply. but since it makes the playing aspect of fighting games simpler, it leaves your mind open for strategy, tactics, and mind-games.

i dun wish to change your opinion, and i dun think your opinion is wrong. but i personally just see arcade sticks as the better way to play. take a look at the Evolution Fighting Tournament... the Shoryuken.com community. the vast majority of them advocate and use arcade sticks for the many fighting games they host. ask them if you need further explanation. they know this debate inside and out. i've tried my best to put forth my own take.

Thanks for the explanation. I guess I'll see if I ever touch an arcade stick again, which I haven't since the days of MK3 and Killer Instinct. Back then the arcade sticks looked to me like it was easy to input a wrong command. I guess I'll see.

Back in March 2007, I had some Wal-mart Gift Cards to kill so I bought 2 Hori Fighting Stick PS3 for $49.82 a piece. I haven't really even had a chance to use them since the main fighting game I like is SF and it's not out yet. Once SF II HD is released I'm hoping to start using these.