1. They are probably just trying to get some media spotlight by playing the vigilant crusader. Sad.

Posted at 9:45AM on Oct 10th 2007 by ruibing

2. what about all the witchs the church burned, its way more disgusting >.>

Posted at 9:46AM on Oct 10th 2007 by coplice

3. @2 That's a bad understanding of history, very very little of that went on in England. Most of it happened in the Americas.

I don't think the game should be pulled but I DO see their point, maybe if we all tried to see each others point a little more often the world would be a better place and we might get on a lot more.

Posted at 10:01AM on Oct 10th 2007 by DownwardMonkey

4. That's stupid. But we can see movies with killings on churches, making orgies or stuff like that. Anyways, anything that helps to drive sales of something is a good thing for the company. The game has the representation of the church, not the church itself, like on movies, that they have to make the scenes on the actual place.

Posted at 10:06AM on Oct 10th 2007 by momegao

5. So they're upset? Screw 'em.

Posted at 10:11AM on Oct 10th 2007 by Lee Richards

6. sad thing is you spend about 5 minutes in the church, its not even a whole level.

And in a way your actually defending the church from the chimera (bad guys), and in the intelligence reports the church is put across as a place of sanctuary.

Honestly if they actually played the level with the church in they would see that its no "virtual desecration of Manchester Cathedral."

Posted at 10:24AM on Oct 10th 2007 by JackMichael-

7. @2 yea ironically, the witch burnings occured in America by people who were "escaping" the "persecution" of the Church of England
besides, who really cares about a church founded on the principle of allowing King Henry to just keep on divorcing wives

Posted at 10:31AM on Oct 10th 2007 by n3rd

8. The Church of England doesn't represent all of Christianity, so please let's not try to dis all Christians over this. I'm a Christian, not in the Church of England, and believe what they are doing here is foolish. They must be bored. They would be better going out and doing what God told them to do.

Posted at 10:55AM on Oct 10th 2007 by Twelve

9. @8. They probably are doing what they think god is telling them to do. Everyone who believes in god thinks he says stuff, and ironically god only says stuff people want to hear. How many people would believe in a god that didn't agree with their own life views? No one. Which is why they are indeed doing what they think god is "telling" them.

Posted at 11:12AM on Oct 10th 2007 by acefondu

10. umm between 1558 - 1944 a minimum of 1000 men and women were executed for wichcraft in the uk (probably more as the witchfiders were paid on how many they "uncovered")
post 6 makes a good point but forgot to mention that the altar and any other religious iconography has been removed from the game so in fact the location could be any one of many cathederals in england (and maybe elsewhere)
I cant help feeling that perhaps the church has simply jumped on this issue in a vain hope of boosting their popularity.

Posted at 11:15AM on Oct 10th 2007 by psocrates

11. When did this turn into a religious debate? oh yea. the church. well. i for one am tired of europe having their panties in a bunch. man hunt 2 has been banned not once but twice now. they wanted to ban resistance, a formal appology, and wanted donations from sony. wtf?!? is anyone ever happy with controversal stuff? its a video game. nobody is going to fight aliens in your church. no one is going bother your church. it's a scene in a video game. be happy

Posted at 11:22AM on Oct 10th 2007 by psfan

12. @ 3 & 7. Do you Americans know nothing about the world outside of America? There were only 36 witch executions in America and 29 of them were related to the incident in Salem. This compares to over 12,500 recorded witch executions in Europe, though the estimated figure is supposed listed closer to 65,000:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch-hunt#Executions

DownwardMonkey next time you might want to check you facts before shooting off your mouth with an absurdly inaccurate statement like: “That's a bad understanding of history, very very little of that went on in England. Most of it happened in the Americas.”

Posted at 11:26AM on Oct 10th 2007 by Charles

13. This is just as bad as people being upset over shooting black people in the new RE5. I didn't Spain getting upset over RE4. Everyone needs to quit whining and grow up. Until a game has YOUR picture and YOUR name on it and making offensive use of it then shut up.

Posted at 11:27AM on Oct 10th 2007 by acefondu

14. @13 hell they put me in a game i'd be as happy as anything, the world needs more of a sense of humour maybe if someone had just laughed in the Very Rev Rogers Govender's face when he started whining maybe he would have seen how ridiculous he was being

Posted at 11:33AM on Oct 10th 2007 by psocrates

15. What 12 said.

And to further clear up the confusion, we (in America that is) didn't actually burn any witches....we hung our witches. Someone was "pressed" death which sounds to me about as horrible as being burned.

Posted at 11:33AM on Oct 10th 2007 by Paul

16. @12 I honestly started to have this argument with you and then stopped, deleted it all because I really can't be bothered. I'm not getting into an argument with people that copy and paste what they read on wiki and google searches as fact. The witch burning "facts" presented about the UK are often very very very mis-informed and most of it happened 100s and 100s of years ago, not in the late 20th century as was the case in the US.

All I see here is a bunch of people getting their pants in a twist that the Church of England is upset about one of their places of worship being used in a violent game.

Do I agree with them? No. I am a christian? No. But frankly I think most of the people posting here just fail to accept that sometimes some people get annoyed and upset about things that wouldn't normally bother you and maybe they have a view point that should have been considered before hand.

Posted at 11:51AM on Oct 10th 2007 by DownwardMonkey

17. The fact of the matter is that they had to be careful about Vegas and being sued in R6, why shouldn't the church feel the same way about one of their buildings?

Posted at 11:54AM on Oct 10th 2007 by DownwardMonkey

18. yeah, but you weren't killing aliens in vegas.

Posted at 12:17PM on Oct 10th 2007 by Chameleon

19. Lol. Imagine if it was an iconic Muslim Mousque...

Hehe.

^^

Posted at 12:32PM on Oct 10th 2007 by JaseH

20. @16/17 check the figures for yourself there are many many books on the subject or if you prefer just take the accepted christian medias view on what happened
http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/H/history/t-z/witch.html
remember this article only covers events in one county of the uk!

Posted at 12:51PM on Oct 10th 2007 by psocrates