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I supposed when they mean "North America", they meant US ONLY!

because nowhere in Canada can you find the new SKU, not even Sonystore.ca

but then again, not remembering there are other countries in NA outside of US is such a small thing, how could they have remembered?

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The 80gb is available on Aug. 12th in Canada..

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10092266&logon=&langid=EN

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They specifically mention Canada in the press release... anyway, this is a terrible option. They had better drop the price before the holidays, I just don't see consumers putting up with a price hike on the ps3.

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This BUNDLE needs to be $499 and the a non-bundle version at $449. Else all the recent good buzz is for nothing.

imo.

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actually.... funny story.... I bought a 60GB PS3 yesterday at the Sony Store in Toronto, and the sales clerk there informed me that if I wanted I could purchase an 80GB model w/the Motorstorm packing on the spot...

LIke the news story said though... we love our $499/549 PS3s... so I told the clerk he can hold onto his 80GB model (after all I already tossed him some free money with an extended warranty...

oh wells.

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@kingofwale: That's why people in the U.S. ignore Canadians - sometimes they bitch and whine so much about nothing! =P
(But even I love that hockey, eh?) =DD

@mccomber: How can you call it a price HIKE when the bundle includes more items, thereby making the BUNDLE a different product?... If it was an 80 gig with one controller and no game - I'd agree with you. But it isn't. So, no hike - just more value for the $600!

@Kspraydad: O.o That's only a $50 difference! And not much of a bargain at that! Lets see now, I have a 60 gig PS3, lets see what it would take to increase it to the bundle...
1) An 80 gig SATA 2.5" hdd = 89.99 (link: http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?pfp=SEARCH&Ntt=SATA+Hard+drive&N=0&Dx=mode+matchall&Ne=200000&Nty=1&D=SATA+Hard+drive&Ns=display%5Fprice%7C0&Ntk=All&product_code=342309 )

2) A second Sixaxis = 39.99 (link: http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?pfp=srch1&Ntt=sixaxis&N=0&Dx=mode+matchall&Ne=500000&Nty=1&D=sixaxis&Ntk=All&product_code=342828 )

3) A copy of Motorstorm = 59.99 (link: http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?pfp=SEARCH&Ntt=motorstorm&N=0&Dx=mode+matchall&Ne=500000&Nty=1&D=motorstorm&Ntk=All&product_code=344597 )

4) One PS3 (60 gig) = 499.99 (link: http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?pfp=SEARCH&Ntt=Playstation+3&N=0&Dx=mode+matchall&Ne=500000&Nty=1&D=Playstation+3&Ntk=All&product_code=343142 )

So, lets add all that up, rounded, shall we? 90 + 40 + 60 + 500 = 690. Bundle price = $599 (or $600)...

There you go! The bundle saves you almost $90!!! So, what you're saying is that a savings of $50 > a savings of $90?... In your cheapskate mind, you might think it's better, but in reality it is not. at $450 + $90 = $540... =o How cheap can a man be if he wants to save $60 on a premium package??? The prices you want btw, are unfairly low for a console that hasn't even been out a year yet, but still! The consumer is saving nearly ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS and yet it isn't enough for you??... Tell you what, why don't you go buy yourself a PSOne. I saw one at Newbury Comics, brand new, for $50... that's a $400 savings off what you suggest for a PS3. Just good luck finding any new games... idiot. >=S

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The thing is.... where did it say that the 80GB version gives you ANOTHER controller? ;)

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Consolcwby, you need to rethink your argument.

You're charging for two hard drives. The 60GB PS3 includes a 60GB hard drive, so your shouldn't be adding the price of the 80GB hard drive, but the difference in price from the 60GB to the 80GB.

60GB ATA6 2.5" $49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148088

80GB SATA 2.5" $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148260

There is a $10 upgrade for the additional 20GB plus 59.99 for MotorStorm. So we're getting an additional $70 in value, but paying $100 more. Sony also removed the EE which at this point isn't worth much in dollars, but I know how poorly software emulation works on my Xbox 360 so I decided to pick up the 60GB.

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@thetwohundredth: My argument stated "Lets see now, I have a 60 gig PS3, lets see what it would take to increase it to the bundle... " Perhaps, you would rather I had said "upgrade it" instead of "increase it"? But, that's all pandantic now isn't it, since I didn't include the 5 free BD movies in with that now did I? And you also included the wrong 60gb hdd, the one I have I checked and it's cheaper then that. So, enjoy your 60gig and don't be so putzy - be nice. =P

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Consolcwby...

Where does the rudeness come from?

You call me an idiot yet can't even string together a coherent mathematical example. Adding the cost of an 80GB drive to the cost of a 60GB PS3 is retarded. I am talking VALUE not upgrade cost.

Can you also please link us to the 80GB bundle from SONY that included and extra SIXAXIS? Thanks.

Oh..and not to be pedantic or anything but the word is pedantic. If you are going to use your thesaurus please transcribe properly. Pointing out that your argument is completely off base is not pedantic anyway.

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You replied to mccomber "How can you call it a price HIKE when the bundle includes more items, thereby making the BUNDLE a different product?"

It's a hike, because the price of the value added items were less than the increase in price and the lower priced model was discontinued.

Here's the problem with bundles. Not everyone wants the game included. Let's take another look at your argument against Kspraydad.

$449 PS3
60GB Hard Drive

$499 PS3
80GB Hard Drive
MotorStorm

The extra 20GB is $10 and MotorStorm is $60. You're receiving a $20 discount for purchasing a game you may or may not want with the console.

The hard drive is retail and likely costs less than $5 and MotorStorm is published by Sony, so a bundle would likely keep a similar profit margin at those prices. It's not the right time for Sony to offer a bundle, unless they do it at the same price point.

You didn't include the 5 free movies because they're worthless (imo). I would have rather received one movie of my choosing than five mediocre movies. I qualify, but haven't bothered to mail in the offer.

You called the other person a cheapskate and an idiot and you're asking me to be nice? BTW, I am aware there are cheaper 60GB drives out there, but I wanted to keep the model similar so there would be no confusion over the difference in price.

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Why are you taking the cost of a 60GB HDD away from the cost of a 80GB hdd? It's not a "$10 upgrade", becuase youdon't pay $10 for the upgrade. You can't just buy 20GB for $10 dollars and add it to the 60 to make 80, it doesn't work that way.

So if the HDD costs $60 then the upgrade it self cost $60. It's idiocy to take the price of a 60 GB HDD away from the cost, because in real life, you wouldn't and can't do that.

Incase you still don't understand, think about his:
Someone gives you a free $60 80GB HDD for your PS3. You put it in replacing your old 60GB HDD. Has this saved you $10 or $60? You'll find the answer is the latter.

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Being sure that my whole ps2 collection plays on my ps3 is priceless. The only thing that may screw things up for 60GB users is an update that deactivates the EE. That'll suck donkey.

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@Ste

The point is VALUE to a NEW consumer...not cost of upgrading.

The VALUE of a 80GB is PENNIES more than the VALUE of a 60GB.

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LOL!

Consolswby just raised his street cred in the "I'm a Sony Coporate Whore" category by flaming some well known "Sony Can Do No Wrong Fanboys"

Way to start feeding on your own, dumbass.

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"Why are you taking the cost of a 60GB HDD away from the cost of a 80GB hdd? It's not a "$10 upgrade", becuase youdon't pay $10 for the upgrade. You can't just buy 20GB for $10 dollars and add it to the 60 to make 80, it doesn't work that way."

We're over here talking about Sony, and you come out of left field talking about users replacing hard drives?

I'll give you a hint. Sony can either purchase a 60GB or 80GB drive for the PS3. What will it cost them to use the 80GB instead of the 60GB hard drive?

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What do they mean by downloadable-content friendly?

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I wonder if this new Sixaxis won't lose connection with the system randomly and cast your character into the pits of doom like my version does.

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thetwohundredth covered it pretty nicely. I want my console ala carte, and if anything comes bundled I don't want to be charged for it; if you include a game, you'd best do it on your own dime. If I was buying a ps3 this year, I'd look at it as "why do I have to pay $600 to get one now when I only had to pay $500 before?"

Bottom line — the 80gb PS3 had best be available in some form in 2007 at $499 if Sony wants to have a chance at coming back in 2008.

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@Hektiklyfe

If you remember the original FCC application for the 80GB (self gloss) it was to enhance/change the bluetooth tech as well. The 'new' controllers take advantage of these changes to offer a more stable experience.

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