
In a complete wrong move on EGM's part, 1UP reports that the reviewers over at the magazine have had little notes posted onto their Warhawk reviews stating, in some form or another, that the review "score should be dropped a whole point if the price was announced above $30." Sure, Sony hasn't officially announced a Warhawk price for the downloadable version and that's a little odd, but I've got problem with this bit of news.
An unannounced price shouldn't affect a game's review score by such a significant margin. It's tough to grasp what the point of dropping a review score is because of a game possibly being priced above the rumored price created by the media. Does it make you enjoy it less? Does it make the graphics worse? Does it hinder the framerate? It might dissuade people from buying the downloadable version if it were, say, $50, but if that's the case, the retail version is a great deal. If the downloadable version is $30, that's a budget title and a great deal.
It's a bit difficult to explain, which is exactly why the EGM staff are concerned about how to review the game. I'd like your take on the situation, in that case! Is there a difference between buying a game due to price and buying a game due to quality? Price does affect many people's willingness to buy, but should it necessarily affect the score given to a game by reviewers getting the game for little or no cost?













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8-02-2007 @ 7:35PM
derrickgott007 said...
Now I am glad that my subscription to EGM has expired....They have officially lost their ability to review games honestly.
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8-02-2007 @ 7:37PM
derrickgott007 said...
If the downloadable one is above $30.00 you could always just buy the package deal and get a Bluetooth headset included. Hell, I could use an extra headset, that way one could stay with my PS3 and the other with my phone, no having to re-sync with each device each time.
EGM is now worthless. They have lost their edge.
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8-02-2007 @ 7:40PM
Tyler said...
Never did really like EGM, always gotten Game Informer
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8-02-2007 @ 7:42PM
cheese said...
Imagine reviewing a Movie or Book with the same criteria. Silly Bastards.
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8-02-2007 @ 7:44PM
WebMaster said...
Nick,
I agree with your feelings, but welcome to the world of biased game reviewers. Shadowrun suffered similar fate simply because it was lacking a single player version, however, you don't find single player games getting docked so harshly for lacking any real form of online multiplayer.
This is the single biggest reason I give absolutely ZERO credibility to game reviews. I bought my fair share of turds over the years, but I've also found quite a few gems that were panned by the "experts".
Spread the word on your feelings for warhawk, and hopefully it'll offset some of the potential negative press. Besides, if Warhawk is good, it's easily worth up to $60.00 to me, irregardless if it's a download rather then a retail box set.
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8-02-2007 @ 7:46PM
Aaron said...
Seems like the budget price helped at least a little bit with NFL 2K5 getting such high scores.
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8-02-2007 @ 7:47PM
Space_Butler said...
It affected Shadowrun's score, and playstation fans cheered. Now it may affect Warhawk, and suddenly EGM "has lost it's edge" and "is treating this game unfairly". It's either a standard to rate a game lower if the cost is a factor in justifying the score (for example, should live arcade and budget PSN games be held to a different rating scale than full-blown PS3 and 360 titles), or none at all. Pick one, and stick with it, but don't trash an offering from the other side to then turn around and complain when the same stuff happens to something on a console YOU love.
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8-02-2007 @ 7:50PM
peer said...
i love ssd hd ... but, not as had it benn full retail ... although not the same as here
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8-02-2007 @ 7:51PM
Hard Gay said...
EGM can suck my balls.
They are the most unforgiving and retarded reviewers out of every single gaming magazine...past, or present.
A whole point just on price?
Saysaysay....Hard Gay says...WTF?
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8-02-2007 @ 7:52PM
jitty said...
How the hell do they review these games so freaking early? Like months before they come out?
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8-02-2007 @ 7:53PM
Maurice M said...
@4: Multi-player has never and will never be as important to the majority of video game consumers as single-player.
Reviews are a consumer tool, and the value of the product (price vs content) should always be a large factor in the score. The review is for people deciding where to spend their money after all.
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8-02-2007 @ 7:55PM
Kxpuc said...
doesn't really matter what the price is for the downloadable version if it's lower then the retail one. I'll be picking up the game anyway still jonesing from playing the beta and want to get back killing
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8-02-2007 @ 7:58PM
Toby said...
i think that the psn version is worth at least 30, i would pay upwards of that for it. im getting the blu ray tho.
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8-02-2007 @ 8:03PM
clankman said...
Another reason to hate EGM.
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8-02-2007 @ 8:07PM
WebMaster said...
@10
"Multi-player has never and will never be as important to the majority of video game consumers as single-player."
Perhaps not today, however, according to the expected broadband penetration, along with the state and federal programs to mandate broadband for rural areas, the future it is most certainly to change in regards to online vs offline.
"Reviews are a consumer tool, and the value of the product (price vs content) should always be a large factor in the score. The review is for people deciding where to spend their money after all."
Reviews of a video game are usually a much different beast compared to reviews of standard consumer products. A toaster either works or it doesn't-there's not alot of room for personal bias to make a difference.
A video game review is much more biased by personal choice, fanboyism, corporate whoring, advertising, taste, and preferences, therefore dramatically decreasing it's value as a consumer tool.
I do find value on consumer reviews of some items, however, have found them nearly worthless, due to the aforementioned reasons, when dealing with video games.
To each his own.
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8-02-2007 @ 8:27PM
RangerPrimeX said...
Price does matter. Perceived value factors into how much you like a game or not. A lower price will make you more forgiving. I enjoyed Project Sylpheed better since it was lower price I felt that I got my money's worth but a higher price and I would have felt slighted. Just look what happened to Shadowrun.
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8-02-2007 @ 8:34PM
sheppy said...
"It affected Shadowrun's score, and playstation fans cheered. Now it may affect Warhawk, and suddenly EGM "has lost it's edge" and "is treating this game unfairly". It's either a standard to rate a game lower if the cost is a factor in justifying the score (for example, should live arcade and budget PSN games be held to a different rating scale than full-blown PS3 and 360 titles), or none at all. Pick one, and stick with it, but don't trash an offering from the other side to then turn around and complain when the same stuff happens to something on a console YOU love."
Actually, a vast majority of the 360 fanboys were jeering about the price as well. Facing facts, all we have to go on for pricing right now is rumor and speculation. If a magazine will hold a rating binding to rumor and speculation, I wonder what that magazine is worth. Not alot apparently. Because over the past three years, EGM has been going from the leader to a floundering rag trying desperately to maintain readership.
Now, having said that, I can say this. I was in the Warhawk Beta. Of the many, many betas I played, this is the absolute first that I went over 100 games with. Despite system freezes, I still played over 100 games. When my friends came over, we all jumped in (four player local CAN go online together). The game supports local multiplayer if you're not feeling the 32 player matches. And from my time with it, I'd spend $60 easily.
But here we have a problem. The whole single player vs. multiplayer game debate. Shadowrun was NOT content heavy, period. Warhawk, however, is definately content heavy. Trust me on this. So many modes, maps, and layouts. And none of them felt inbalanced to me. But it's multiplayer only... okay, big deal. Now we look at another aspect...
The Battlefield series. Most reviews glow for something that is multiplayer only. There is no single player, there are only bots.
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8-02-2007 @ 8:43PM
grass said...
Woooooooooow. More bullshit when it comes to EGM....I mean, they seem to be pretty biased when it comes to things like the ps3, give or take a few praises. I mean, come on, this is not going to sway my purchase. I was actually going to buy the retail for the headset, seeing as mine usually doesn't auto....meaning, it wasn't supposed to but now seems to. Which, has anyone else noticed? Anyways....when it comes to purchasing the game online, I would be surprised if it was above 30 dollars. But for a pending rating depending on this, it seems ridiculous. I cannot believe that once again, EGM is finding ways to just straight out bother me. Fools is all I say....
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8-02-2007 @ 8:44PM
GL said...
I have "little notes posted" that say, "EGM gets 1 point off for spouting stupid sh*t again."
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8-02-2007 @ 8:46PM
GRT said...
Price absolutely matters to a review. Like someone said, SSD is a great game for $10 but if I'd paid $60 for it I wouldn't feel like I got enough value from it.
The problem here is that the EGM reviewers drew such a sharp line. So $29.95 and the game gets a (for example) 4 rating, but at $30.05 it gets a 3? That doesn't make sense. Even a more realistic difference of $29.99 vs $34.99 isn't worth a full point of rating difference, I don't think.
They should've just reviewed the blu-ray sku and been done with it. They know what that price is going to be.
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