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Microsoft attacks our HOME

We've already heard Nintendo's response to the PlayStation HOME, but we hadn't talked about how Microsoft felt about the ambitious new service. We will now. Chris Satchell, general manager of Microsoft's Game Developer Group, poo-pooed the HOME, saying it was "not a very game-centric approach." Oh, really? Last we checked, Sony has stated that everything is about software now -- software generally includes games. Since that's their focus, isn't that a game-centric approach? Meanie.

Satchell goes on to the inevitable comparison ending with a "we're better" indirect implication: "I think they've definitely taken some concepts that we originated like achievements, but I think they're pushing in a different direction and we've sort of fundamentally got two different approaches going on here. I think theres is very much a vision that people see it and it looks cool but it's fundamentally separate from the games - or at least what they've shown so far. It's a cool world but it's like a little game by itself. Our approach is the other way around; it's that games are the center and that's the star of the show, that's what people buy the console for."

Satchell did say LittleBigPlanet is a neat game and concept, what with user-generated content and all, but he says that "I can't see a big portfolio of games at the moment that do this. I don't think there's a whole load to catch up." Maybe not yet. But soon. Wait, isn't LBP a game? That's software. Lay off, Microsoft. Sony's concentrating on games... you yourself called HOME a "little game by itself"... again, software. What are your guys' thoughts? Is MS blowing steam or do they have a point?

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1. I think if I wanted to play Sims,I would go buy it.

Posted at 2:50PM on Mar 11th 2007 by Groggy

2. they fear sony,home and littlebigplanet thats all about

Posted at 3:13PM on Mar 11th 2007 by naruto007

3. @Groggy
I think if you have nothing to say shut up

M$ service got pwned by a free service lol,dam i would be ashamed and defensive to >_

Posted at 3:16PM on Mar 11th 2007 by Liquid

4. "M$ service got pwned by a free service lol,dam i would be ashamed and defensive to >_
seeing home hasnt even lanched yet and nobody even know if it WORKS, i wouldnt say pwned yet b/c sony hasnt proven anything with "home" yet.

Posted at 3:20PM on Mar 11th 2007 by ahatter

5. I have to say, as someone who loves games, not just one particular console, HOME has me intrigued, but it still doesn't scream system seller to me. Like Groggy said, if I want to go play The Sims or Second Life, I'll go play it. It sounds like Second Life combined with Microsoft Acheivment points. Cool, maybe, but it still doesn't quite get me over that $600 pricetag. It's not *just* the software. It's also the *price*.

Posted at 3:24PM on Mar 11th 2007 by James

6. It's obviously going to be different then "the Sims", Some of you need to read/listen to things alittle more carefully before posting. This is basically what Xbox loyalties do as well. I mean look at the IGN forums, it's so full of BS.

Phil has explained "Home" in like 4 different way's but all his explainations come down to one thing and that is online gaming which is easy to access through "HOME". People like to turn this around and make it sound like it's going to be complicated and you have to walk/run to a different room to play which is a waste of time. This is not like that and he clearly says and shows examples of the Virtual PSP menu.

Put it this way, you can go into an online game (with friends) just as easy as you can on XboxLive, Or you have the option of sitting around and playing mini game's such as pool, bowling, etc etc. People also say "well Sony needs to concentrate on online gaming bleh bleh" Well that is what they are doing, but at the same time implementing other nice feature's. Since they are doing this and it's Free (which is extremely nice)and it's organized really well, this is hard to beat. The only thing that can really be done is making it look 100% real. At the same time as it supports GAME'S it also supports Movie's, Music, and other's. This is basically a package with everthing and it's Free.

By the time this is released there are going to be a good amount of fun games and awesome game's, So launching this in the fall is a smart move on them. Although it would of been nice if they added this before launch or something but hey.

Posted at 3:28PM on Mar 11th 2007 by LocknLoad

7. Um how is this classed as an attack? All theyv said is that its not really related to games...Which it true, the only thing that I can see is related to games is the achievements thing...And he said that he thinks that littleBigPlanet looks pretty neat. I think your just trying to start some sort of flame war here not act like a jounalist

Posted at 3:29PM on Mar 11th 2007 by IncredibleBulk92

8. The "PR master" contradicts himself:

"It's a cool world but it's like a little game by itself."

So it's a little game, but the service isn't about games??

Posted at 3:47PM on Mar 11th 2007 by Bored

9. For the record, Microsoft did not create Achievements. They were originally called "Skill Points" and introduced by Insomniac in the Spyro Year of the Dragon on the PSOne, then Ratchet and Clank on PS2, and Resistance on the PS3. Seeing as how Sony owns Insomniac, Microsoft actually ripped the idea off of Sony, not the other way around. Granted, MS has done a good job of taking them platform-wide, rather than on a game-by-game basis - but the original idea remains Insomniac/Sony's.

Posted at 3:53PM on Mar 11th 2007 by nate

10. "For the record, Microsoft did not create Achievements. They were originally called "Skill Points" and introduced by Insomniac in the Spyro Year of the Dragon on the PSOne, then Ratchet and Clank on PS2, and Resistance on the PS3. Seeing as how Sony owns Insomniac, Microsoft actually ripped the idea off of Sony, not the other way around. Granted, MS has done a good job of taking them platform-wide, rather than on a game-by-game basis - but the original idea remains Insomniac/Sony's." Don't you love it when someone steals an idea and makes it better? I do! :)

Posted at 4:55PM on Mar 11th 2007 by atsui

11. I really like the Home Idea and it is Free as well is a nice feature too. I think it is a great Idea.
Sure alot of it is borrowed from other things already done. So what, it still looks cool. It combines Achievements, Second Life, Sims all in one World for Gamers to meet discuss games, setup matches, etc.
It is not bad thing to re-use good ideas.

James its a $500 price Tag. The $499 PS3 has More than the $399 XBox. Plus Online is Free. Of course I bought the $600 too. But it was less than my 360 because the 360 everything else is Extra $

Mr Satchell why can't your programmers figure out how to make XBox games compatible with the 360? Sony has over 1000 PS2 games for their software emulator that will soon replace the Hardware Compatibility in the PS3. Don't throw stones if you don't want to get in a Rock Fight.

Posted at 5:33PM on Mar 11th 2007 by Scott Krueger

12. @ Liquid

um I did have something to say (if I wanted to play Sims,I would go buy it ) can you not read ? they asked for your opinion on this... thats mine... I have all 3 new systems, and love them all the same.

Posted at 5:48PM on Mar 11th 2007 by Groggy

13. Sony can talk the talk but rarely walk the walk...
I hope Home is everything Sony says it is. Maybe I'll even buy a PS3 if they show me how matchmaking works. Did anyone also notice they did not show how matchmaking will work with Home? Keep this all in mind folks. Xbox Live has taken years to develop and I find it pretty hard to believe that Sony can just throw up a service without a couple years of learning. To all all Sony fanboys... Sony has left you up to dry a few times now so don't count the chickens before they have hatched. Might be a little embarrassed... again.

Posted at 6:21PM on Mar 11th 2007 by silence

14. Scott if you were smart you would know that Microsoft didn't own the tech in the original x box it was basically stock pc parts and an nvidia graphics card. the 360 uses tech that ms purchased the rights too and also has an ati graphics card. now putting that into play you need to EMULATE original x box game on the 360 hence most of them do not work because they need to reverse engineer the games to work on 360 hardware. shows your ignorance. so in closing shut your damn mouth

Posted at 6:33PM on Mar 11th 2007 by DarkTravesty

15. "Last we checked, Sony has stated that everything is about software now -- software generally includes games. Since that's their focus, isn't that a game-centric approach? Meanie."

Hahahaha! That's great Nick. You sound like a true PS3 fanboy using words like "meanie" and basically saying your feelings are hurt. How is giving one's opinion when asked a question "Attacking" someone?

Chris Satchell is absolutely right to call Sony out on it's lack of focus on games. It's marketing itself as a ALL-IN-ONE media hub.

A Sim as an avatar does detract focus from gamers playing games. Yeah, that sounds real exciting. I'd rather spend hours playing through a GUI then to log on my account and play an actual game. You don't see 360 owners spending hours in the XBL menus. And to all you retards saying Microsoft or 360 owners are jealous, no we're not. We're laughing at how stupid you're acting. You think because Sony is adding features you're going to 1 up us. The fact of the matter is, Gamers love games, not gimmicks. I didn't buy a console for features, I bought it to play games. Features are a bonus, not the focus. If you think we're jealous over here in the other camp, keep telling yourself that while you still sit without rumble, games, achievements, and have nothing but announcements. Have fun with all of Sony's promises, promises, hype, promises, and more hype.

None of us are complaining about paying for a service. Maybe you all enjoy working for free, but I pay people for their work. So quit acting like a bunch of grade school morons by spouting out "We were attacked" and "My system is going to have more features (cause Sony told me) there for it will be better than yours!!"

Well, I better sell my 360 and my 10 games so that I can buy a PS3 and play an avatar, that's how I roll. Spoken like a true retard.

Posted at 10:00PM on Mar 11th 2007 by Fanboys SUCK

16. Nothing online that sony comes up with will be as good as what microsoft has because sony's service is free, and thats the only thing thats ever been good about it. By charging for xbox live, microsoft is able to provide better content for its customers.

Posted at 10:13PM on Mar 11th 2007 by Ekafrikay

17. sure.. Second Life is "free" too, but how much did your PC cost?

COMPUTERS != FREE

Posted at 10:58PM on Mar 11th 2007 by stirlo

18. Price? stop looking at price! look at value... $600 is pretty cheap when it comes to what the PS3 offers... the Blu-ray player alone cost $900...

besides... in the long run, you Xbox users end up paying more with your $50 a year Xbox Live subscription as opposed to your free online service...

Posted at 11:15PM on Mar 11th 2007 by WaSSaBi

19. sorry for the double post...
^ supposed to be our not your

@16
Sony will offset the cost by advertising... if you watched the announcement, you would know this (in the virtual realm as well as private advertising rooms from software manufactureres etc.)

Posted at 11:21PM on Mar 11th 2007 by WaSSaBi

20. "Price? stop looking at price! look at value... $600 is pretty cheap when it comes to what the PS3 offers... the Blu-ray player alone cost $900...

besides... in the long run, you Xbox users end up paying more with your $50 a year Xbox Live subscription as opposed to your free online service.."

Translation: "I'm a PS3 fanboy and my system is better than yours."

Ever hear of a "Video Game Console"?? Good, cause I already have a computer. First off, All-In-One's suck ass. I'll stick with "stand alones". Second, we want games not a Blu-Ray player.

Posted at 12:16AM on Mar 12th 2007 by Fanboys SUCK

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