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Is 1080p really worthless? Now it's personal

There's this Microsoft supporter, Ozymandias, who recently pushed an article called "1080p Meaningless this Generation". Well, perhaps Microsoft supporter is unfair, but he's definitely against Sony's new console. Let's sum up his reasoning behind the uselessness of 1080p.

  1. Multiplatform games embrace the 720p as a simpler system specification.
  2. Doesn't expect any 1080p (or i) games for the PS3 this year.
  3. No difference between 1080i and 1080p if television is de-interlacing properly.
All are valid points, but there is a bit debate to be had. Let's see how we do.

  1. Let's be honest. Multi-platform games usually aren't that great. They're multi-platform to maximize sales. It's true they'd use the 720p since it's a simpler way to go multi, but what about the games just for PS3? Namely, RPG's, or anything other than FPS's and Madden? This is a fairly moot point as it's pointed at one piece of the gaming industry, but still valid.
  2. See the article on Lair. It's rumored to be a launch title. Even so, saying there won't be any 1080p games this year, when that includes a month and a half, is an unfair estimation. In one year after release? There certainly will be.
  3. Sure. This is confusing stuff to some people, so it's something we're willing to shrug and accept. It's relating to movies, mostly, and the whole Blu-ray vs. HD-DVD is a completely different story. If the two use the same codec, they might just be equal.
The guy has some points, but it's a lot of anti-hype. It's a good article and very much worth a read and some more debate as comments, but we shouldn't make such hasty judgments when we haven't even started our engines. By November of next year, hopefully there will be more great debate to be had.

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21. "So if 1080i looks better than 720p... Then 1080p will Look Awesome and have the Faster draw rate that is needed for gaming.
But if your console can't deliver 1080p then...
Well, you read the story."

Ha say it like EVERY game will be in 1080p! Be happy with your stale Gran Turismo HD. It will be the same exact game as 4 but will be in 1080p! Makes the game that much more fun to play!

Posted at 7:37PM on Aug 17th 2006 by Cage

22. As said on Wikipedia

all 1080-interlaced signals are potentially 1080p signals given the proper deinterlacing. As long as no additional image-degradation steps were applied during signal mastering (such as excessive vertical-pass filtering), the image from a properly deinterlaced film-source 1080i signal and a native-encoded 1080p signal will look exactly the same.

Posted at 10:54PM on Aug 17th 2006 by Sponge

23. Sponge, you better read that wikipedia article once more. And you sure know the difference between film and games play, right.

As I've already said in #7, 1080i deinterlaced is not the same as 1080p 60Hz which is the framerate that is used with this standard. 1080i has an effictive framerate that is half of that, which is ok for movies when deinterlaced but not for past paced games. The other topic of deinterlacing is that this is something taking place in your TV and depends on the quality of that feature, whereas 1080p is native and doesn't require this kind of post processing.

It's really kind of funny how people here can argue that lower resolution and framerates are better. Ask some PC gamers and they might explain that to you.

What is true though is that the whole processing chain from beginning to end supports the quality of images. The PS3 is just one element in that but an important one.

Posted at 11:42AM on Aug 18th 2006 by Mutsch

24. Agh! I did it again. Spelled definitely as "definately"... I don't know where this habit came from but it's a tough cookie to break! I'll keep working on it and thanks for the spelling tips. Keeps me on my toes!

Posted at 1:14PM on Aug 18th 2006 by ndoerr

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