PS3 Fanboy

I agree this will foster some independent gaming shops to get a start.

But I also think this is going to open the flood gates of porn related games to flow onto the consoles.

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It is already working for independent gaming shops with XBLA. Microsoft offers dev kits to them reasonably. Geometry Wars and Marble Blast Ultra are good examples.

I'm curious to see how well Sony can handle such a thing.

As for the first comment...I really hope Sony has some type of verification/approval process before publishing "any" title.

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wait, whats that???

Another copied feature?!? Doens't MS do something similar to this with XBL Arcade? Oh its not similar, its the exact same thing.

I wish Sony could think for themselves for once.

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@ The Guru.

Grow up, please! Do you know how hard it is to be innovative? Just be happy that Sony is offering their customers the quality that we are getting with our 360's.

And even then, even though i admit i am somewhat an Xbox fanboy, MS hasn't been all that ground breaking anyway. The same thing that you get with the 360 has already been delivered on P.C. As much as it pains me to say this, it is quite obvious that Nintendo are the greatest innovators, just look at their history.

Even though I am not getting a PS3, I am content with my 360 and may consider Revolution (low price), I am happy that they are giving independent companies a chance.

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MS being innovatine? LOL!! You crack me up... If you can, name me one thing that MS innovated...

Nintendo innovated the most. Too much to count.

As a Sony fanboy, Sony only has one point, but I'm not sure. The only one I know is the EyeToy.

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someones scared that sony will be doing it better, thus making him feel that much worse about his decision in consoles.

or maybe he's just a crybaby.

hard to tell.

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lol yeah guru, if sony didn't include it, i can see you crying about how sony didn't add the same feature...soo yeah hush

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Xbox live arcade anyone...

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Hold on, Microdot, think about this for a minute.

Besides getting the better exclusives and providing ridiculous unmerited hype, what exactly has the Sony done better than Microsoft? Can you enlighten us?

I don't know about you, but playing the PS2 is painful to me (physically and visually), especially when I have the other systems available to play.

As far as the PS3, we can only speculate because Sony hasn't provided the actual product yet. They could easily pull another PS2 disappointment on us...because we'll buy it anyway.

It's hard to be "scared" of Sony doing something "better" than Microsoft or Nintendo at this point. What I'm scared of is them pulling the same crap that they did with the PS2 hardware and peripherals.

I'm very interested in how the PS3 will work and how useful it will be. The proposed feature set sounds awesome, but I'm interested in what features actually make the cut and will be useful. The result determines how long I can wait before buying it. I figure after a lackluster PS2 and PSP that the PS3 will make up for the other two system's blunders. But after the crap they pulled with the PS2 (weak "Emotion Engine", unsupported hard drive, lack of online features, Disc Read Error for 12 versions of the console, useless Linux, etc), I tread VERY carefully.

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wait.....i thought it was the xbox 1.5......so why is sony following in microsoft foot steps and offering every service micro has to offer......ow wait, i know! Maybe its cause sony realizes that real gamers dont give a fuck about blue ray and unless they deliver a good machine with good games and great online then gamers might just not wait around to be dissapointed yet again this generation. I enjoy rpg's like the next guy but there same formula story lines are starting to get old....oh and before i forget, sony you suck !!!!!!

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Honestly... you guys just keep whining about how Sony doesn’t have XBL, and then when Sony finally says they are going to have an online service you bash it because XBL was there first. Who freaking cares? Nintendo made the rumble pack, but do we see everyone kicking and screaming because all controllers now feature a rumble? If anything this is going to be good for you XBL lovers. It'll put pressure on Microsoft to be more innovative, to create more to separate themselves from Sony. Stop whining and realize it’s going to help you not hurt you.

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You people say this will push for MS to be more innovative, but how can they be if Sony will just come right behind them and copy everything??

And just so you know, your rumple pack example is horrible, Apollo

I agree with 'Sony fanboy who say the light'. Why would Sony copy something thats 'inferior' to their super computer that plays games on the side?? Supposedly the 360 is only going for the ps2, yet the ps3 takes so many features from the 360.

My guess is thats why Sony delayed the lauch. Needed more time to see what MS did so they can copy it.

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"Record break on sales twice. You can't discredit Sony as they've done most things right.

Microsoft simply made a turbo-PS2 with a hard drive which wasn't used a lot and brought patches, and every other innovation brought by Sega, Sony and Nintendo. Only they brought LIVE which was "great", but now that Sony and Nintendo both appear to have decent online gaming services and cheaper, what will 360 have to counter?"

I have to disagree. The PS2 doesn't break record sales because it has outstanding hardware (basically no hard drive support, crappy online service, floppy analog sticks, shoddy DVD lasers, crappy DVD playback). The other two consoles are more robust and higher quality (controllers, disc drives, speed). The PS2 was popular mainly because of the exclusive games. If those games were available for the other systems...I don't think Sony would have kept its domination. To me, the Xbox was everything Sony promised in the PS2 hardware but didn't deliver. When I finally got an Xbox, I was pissed that I stood by Sony for so long because the system just provided a better experience for the games available. Same with the Gamecube. But most people stick with one console, so they'll never know the joys of the alternative offerings.

The "turbo-PS2" comment really gets me. The Xbox is capable of more than just speed improvements. Compare the multiplatform games...the Xbox just makes the PS2 versions look unacceptable (I still cringe at NFS:MW on the PS2). System link is never really seen on the PS2 either. Plus it already supported HD!

As far as Live, just because Nintendo and Sony say they'll have online services doesn't really mean they will compare in quality. So far, Sony's "online service" sounds exactly like the shoddy PS2 one with added friends list and chatting...performance doesn't sound like it will be any better. Since the services will be free, it's probably safe to assume that even more people will be annoying on them, and when mods come around, they will be uncontrollable.

I give praise to Nintendo because the WiFi service for the DS is great albeit occassionally aggravating. It's good enough for free and for a portable, but I don't think it would be acceptable for console gaming. I'm hoping the Revolution adds some good features to the service.

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i usually dont comment on the fanyboy blogs even though I read them as much as the main site but...

"Sony doubled the analog stick that N64 brought because they saw that you needed one analog for pointing/moving the cam and one for moving on 3D environments. They also saw that it was better to integrate rumble directly instead of as an add-on. Movie playback. Better and cheaper storage subsequently (not the first console to use optical media, but they did invent CD and introduced DVD to consoles). Backwards compatibility. Industry growth/maturity. Record break on sales twice. You can't discredit Sony as they've done most things right."
1. the 3d0 came 3 full years ahead of the playstation and it played music cds, video cds , and was the first 3d console. turbo duo, atari jaguar, sega saturn, and sega cd all used optical media before sony.
2. the dual analog controllers were, sorry... are uncomfortable, and for the fist half of the dual shocks life wasnt utilized by many games. you are however right about them making rumble a standard feature.
by the way using your logic the playstation was simply a 3d0 with a snes gamepad. no better no worse. at least the xbox was Better than the console it "copied" and made IMPORTANT improvements to console design.

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Why does every post on this site turn into a xbox vs ps war?

Will you say that Microsoft is ripping of Sony when Microsoft starts to offer movie and music downloads on the xbox?

The Ps3 will be better. Why? This is why:

Better games
More games
More power
Harddisk
Backwards compatability
Free online play
Music downloading
Game downloading
Movie downloading
HD Movies
Web browser
DVR
Direct TV
Bluetooth
Video chat
Watch TV while you play a game(multiple channels on tv)

List Of Sony PS3 Games
0-9

* 2 Days to Vegas - Steel Monkeys *
* 6GUN II - BattleBorne Entertainment *
A

* Alan Wake - Remedy Entertaiment *
* Alone in the Dark - Atari *
* Angel Rings (tentative name) - SCEI FP
* Avalon - Climax
* Akira Kurosawa's Oni - Koei
* Armored Core 4 - From Software *
B

* Broken Saints - Gnosis *
* Black Blade - From Software
* Bladestorm - Omega Force/Koei
* Brothers in Arms 3 - Ubisoft
C

* Clown Combat - Eagle Claw
D

* The Darkness - Majesco/StarBreeze *
* Dark Sector - Digital Extremes *
* Dark RPG - From Software
* Data-Fly - Origo Gaming Entertainment *
* Def Jam 3 (working title) - EA Games *
* Demonik - Terminal Reality *
* Devil May Cry 4 - Capcom
* Diabolique: License to Sin - Metropolis Soft.
* Driver 5 - Atari
* Dynasty Warriors - Koei
* Dirty Harry (working title) - Warner Bros. IE *
E

* Elveon - 10tacle Studios *
* Endless Saga - Webzen
* Eyedentify - SCEI FP
* The Eye of Judgment (tentative name) - SCEI FP
* Extreme (tentative name) - Taito
F

* Fatal Inertia - Koei
* Fear & Respect - Midway *
* FIFA 06 - EA Sports *
* Fight Night Round 3 - EA Sports
* Fifth Phantom Saga - Sega
* Final Fantasy XIII - Square Enix
* Formula One - Studio Liverpool FP
G

* Genji 2 - SCEI FP
* The Getaway 3 (working title) - Team SOHO
* The Godfather: The Game - EA Games *
* Gradius VI - Konami
* Grand Raid Offroad - Asobo Studios *
* Grand Theft Auto IV - Rockstar Games
* Gundam World - Namco
H

* Heavenly Sword - SCEE
I

* I-8 (Untitled) - Insomniac (SCEA)
* Infraworld - Quantic Dream
J

* John McTiernan Game (Untitled) - Ubisoft
K

* Killing Day - Ubisoft *
* Killzone 2 - Guerrilla Games
* King Kong - Ubisoft *
* King of Fighters: Maximum Impact 3 - SNK Playmore *
L

* L.A. Noire - Team Bondi
* Lair - Factor 5 FP
M

* Madden NFL 2006 - EA Sports *
* Makai Wars - Nippon-ichi Software
* Medal of Honor: Airborne - EA
* Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots - Konami
* Metronome - Team Tarsier *
* Mobile Suit Gundam - Bandai *
* Monster Carnival (tentative name) - SCEI FP
* MotorStorm - SCEE FP
N

* NBA Live 06 - EA Sports *
* NBA2K6 - 2K Sports *
* Need for Speed (New Generation Project) - Electronic Arts
* Notcom Racing - ForwardGames *
* NioH - Koei

O

* Old West Game (Untitled) - Rockstar Games
* Omikron 2 - Quantic Dream
P

* Possession - Blitz Games *
* Pro Mahjong Final (tentative name) - Athena
* Project Assassin - Ubisoft
* Project D - Michaelsoft
* Project Delta - Playlogic International *
* Project Embrace - Origo Gaming Entertainment *
* Project Extreme - Taito
* Project Force - From Software
* Project Psychic - Taito
* Psychopath - Titan Productions *
Q
R

* Rengoku: The End of the Century - Hudson
* Resident Evil 5 - Capcom *
S

* Scarface: The World is Yours - Vivendi Universal *
* Secret Service - Tigon *
* Section 8 - TimeGate
* Seikan (tentative name) - Astroll
* ShadowClan - Tiger Hill
* Shin Megami Tensei - Atlus
* Shin Ten Makai VI (tentative name) - Idea Factory
* Silent Hill 5 - Konami
* Sonic the Hedgehog - Sega *
* Spider-Man 3 - Activision
* Stranglehold - Tiger Hill *
* Stuntman 2 - Reflection
* Super Robot - Banpresto
T

* Tekken 6 (working title) - Namco
* Test Drive Unlimited - Eden Studios *
* Theseis - Track7 Games *
* The Punisher - THQ
* Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon 3 - Ubisoft *
* Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell 4 - Ubisoft *
* Tony Hawk's American Wasteland - Activision *
* Tracer - Gaia Industries
* True Crime 2: Streets of Hong Kong - Luxoflux
U

* Unreal Tournament 2007 - Epic Games
V

* Vision Gran Turismo - Polyphony Digital FP
W

* WarDevil - Unleash the Best Within - Digi-Guys *
* Warhawk - Incognito FP
* Way of the Samurai 3 (tentative name) - Spike
* Winning Eleven - Konami *
* The World of Mana - Square Enix
Y
Z
Legend

A "*" after the game denotes that it is found on other gaming consoles.

A "FP" after the game denotes that it is first party or second party

And these games will be played on a machine with these specs:
Cell Processor

PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz

1 VMX vector unit pc (per core)

512KB L2 cache

7 x SPE at 3.2GHz

7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs

7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE

* 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy

total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS



GPU

RSX @550MHz

1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance

Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels

Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines



Sound

Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell- base processing)



Memory

256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz 256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz



System Bandwidth

Main RAM 25.6GB/s

VRAM 22.4GB/s

RSX 20GB/s (write) + 15GB/s (read)

SB< 2.5GB/s (write) + 2.5GB/s (read)



System Floating Point Performance

2 TFLOPS



Storage

Detachable 2.5" HDD slot x 1



I/O

USB Front x 4, Rear x 2 (USB2.0)

Memory Stick standard/Duo, PRO x 1

SD standard/mini x 1

CompactFlash (Type I, II) x 1



Communication

Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x 3 (input x 1 + output x 2)

Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11 b/g

Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR)



Controller

Bluetooth (up to 7)

USB 2.0 (wired)

Wi-Fi (PSP)

Network (over IP)



AV Output

Screen size: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p

HDMI: HDMI out x 2

Analog: AV MULTI OUT x 1

Digital audio: DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1



Disc Media

CD PlayStation CD-ROM, PlayStation 2 CD-ROM, CD-DA,

CD-DA (ROM), CD-R, CD-RW, SACD, SACD Hybrid (CD layer),

SACD HD, DualDisc, DualDisc (audio side), DualDisc (DVD side)

DVD: PlayStation 2 DVD-ROM, PlayStation 3 DVD-ROM, DVD-Video,

DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW

Blu-ray Disc: PlayStation 3 BD-ROM, BD-Video, BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE




Xbox 360? lol please.... At least the Rev is worth a purchase.

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by boots, I agree with you that Sony has brought some great things to the gaming world. One huge concept was that consoles should be backwards compatible. This in my mind has always been a huge point of aggravation having to keep three or four consoles around just so I can play legacy games. The double analog stick was a huge jump forward (to bad they forgot that one for the PSP). But to compare Nintendo’s WiFi, and Sony’s alleged online service to a here and now is kind of unfair. When Nintendo and Sony actually have their online service up and running it will be time to make comparisons but right now I think we all need to accept that Microsoft is leading the market in Online gaming. Second I am not sure why people keep on blasting Microsoft for charging for Xbox Live and praising Sony for free online service. Xbox Live Silver package is free for those who buy an Xbox 360, you get basic friends lists and game play. If you want to bump up and get some extra features you pay. Sony has only ever said that their basic online service will be free, not all featured all access pass is free.

by fan, You have posted allot of great theories, but right now that is all that is all your comments are is theories. Nothing in your post is concrete, nothing is tangible. When the PS3 comes out maybe your comments will in fact be facts, but right now all we have is a lot of hot air and promises from Sony, and in the past Sony’s promises are not exactly reliable.

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"I think we all need to accept that Microsoft is leading the market in Online gaming."

really? being #3 is "leading the market"? or maybe you forgot about blizzard in general... wow, etc.

silly people and their idiotic assumptions.

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Anyone remember that movie, Stealth? (Sony Pictures ironically)
The plane on there had a robot brain nicknamed EDI. It was so powerful it downloads every song of the internet and then disobeyed its owners because its coding made it have a mind of its own.

This PS3 WILL take over the world. Metaphorically and LITERALLY.

you have been warned.

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fan:
you do realize that microsoft has already began making deals with direct to allow a 360 based iptv service for television shows and movies?
also most of your ps3 rumors (direct tv, music service, movie download servic, etc.) have already been confirmed for the 360. the same can be said about you list of games.
http://money.cnn.com/2006/01/04/technology/ces_gates/

and since you threw in your fair share of bs speculation here is mine: the article above make a reference to a new chip called the viiv that allows you to run various entertainment applications as well as record, pause and rewind and fast-forward through video. the 360 has a chip on its mother board that microsoft has been very tight lipped about. could that be the viiv.
whats really sad is that even though im a xbox fanboy i still like the revo and ps3 and I really dont think that any of the 3 consoles will be better than the next one. Sony is going to sell the most for sure. but when the hype is over, nintendo will have a kiddy game that you can live without, microsoft will have its killer fps and ps3 will have 20 million jrpgs. and the fanboys wouldnt have it any other way

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Fan

Impressive copy and pasting skills.

How does this have to do with Sony copying everything they possibly can, even the design of a george forman grill and spider man writing??

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